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		<title>The Open Internet: what type of regulation do we want?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Net Neutrality: Opportunities and Challenges. HoC Committee Room 19, 29th March 6.30-8.30pm This was a packed event with public and parliamentarians filling the room to listen to a very knowledgeable panel argue the case for or against more regulation of the Internet: Rob Reid (Which?), Robert Hammond, (Consumer Focus), Kip Meek (Everything Everywhere), James Heath (The BBC), Jim Killock [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #ffffff;"><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Net Neutrality: Opportunities and Challenges</span></span></span></span></span></span></strong><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="background-color: #0000ff;"><span style="color: #ffffff;"><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">.</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><strong>HoC Committee Room 19, 29th March 6.30-8.30pm</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">This was a packed event with public and parliamentarians filling the room to listen to a very knowledgeable panel argue the case for or against more regulation of the Internet: Rob Reid (Which?), Robert Hammond, (Consumer Focus), Kip Meek (Everything Everywhere), James Heath (The BBC), Jim Killock (Open Rights Group), Dominique Lazanski (Tax Payers Alliance). Chair: Eric Joyce MP. There were some equally knowledgeable people in the audience, see <a href="http://www.slightlyrightofcentre.com/2011/03/net-neutrality-vs-regulation-lesser.html" class="aga aga_10">James Firth&#8217;s blog post</a> about this event. It  is also useful to take a look at the <a href="http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2011-04-05a.253.0&amp;s=Digital+Economy#g253.1" class="aga aga_11">Adjournment debate on Net Neutrality  held in the HoC</a> on 05/04/11.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Rob Reid spoke first followed by Robert Hammond. They have published a joint statement on maintaining an open internet. Read the <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/53080257/Briefing-for-the-Digital-Economy-All-Party-Parliamentary-Group-Event-on-Net-Neutrality-Opportunities-and-Challenges" class="aga aga_12">briefing provided for the deappg here</a>: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DqeWODv9s" class="aga aga_13">see a video clip of Rob speaking here</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUI_OyuNsqY" class="aga aga_14">Robert speaking here</a>. Rob talked about research Which? had carried out, showing that Internet users were concerned about ISPs because they had failed to keep customers informed about traffic management policies and patterns. Rob and Robert talked about the need for a voluntary code for best practice, for example with switching requests, because customer satisfaction with the  biggest three ISPs is not good. There was general agreement with this point in the room, summed up best by Jean-Jaques: &#8221; consumers can&#8217;t switch because they don&#8217;t understand a) how to switch b) what the service is and c) how connectivity actually works&#8221;. </span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Some also felt that Ofcom could offer better advice to consumers on switching. Issues of transparency were expanded on by several speakers during the event.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Jean-Jaques has also provided the deappg with a statement: <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/51789328/DEAPPG-Open-Internet-Briefing" class="aga aga_15">read his briefing paper here</a>. He </span><span style="font-weight: normal;">argues strongly for  an open Internet in order to maintain the present pace of digital innovation. He wants to see regulations which will remove mobile access restrictions and unfair traffic management policies. He used the example of video conferencing which is a mainly untapped resource</span><span style="font-weight: normal;"> with which businesses can better connect people up, be more creative, and save on organisational costs. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">Jim Killock  agreed with Jean-Jaques that innovation on the internet was slowing because of certain dominant services such as iTunes. </span><span style="font-weight: normal;">He argued for more regulation because it was clear that ISPs, fixed line and mobile broadband providers  were now involved in content delivery, content policing and traffic management which is likely to include a larger role as a censor (web blocking). The public do not understand why services they have paid for are &#8216;throttled&#8217; by ISPs. Ofcom should intervene more if self regulation does not  deliver better internet services for the consumer. You may want to take a look at the <a href="http://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2011/silence-from-the-website-blocking-working-group" class="aga aga_16">Open Rights Group campaign to prevent web blocking</a>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;"> Kip Meek a senior policy advisor to one of the largest  ISPs, Everything Everywhere, disagreed with Jim Killock and Jean-Jaques. He did not recognise  their view of slowed innovation, in fact he saw many new possibilities for using fixed and mobile broadband technology. He also felt that the conversation so far had not covered the big issues, which were really about infrastructure: Spectrum for improving mobile services and more fibre for superfast services. He felt that the  European directive on communications was effective in helping the UK to deal with all of it&#8217;s internet problems, however, ISPs needed further incentives for investment in infrastructure because consumer and commercial demand for better services will continue to outstrip connectivity. <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ip7dPz2Ecc" class="aga aga_17">See Kip speak here.</a></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span></span><span style="font-weight: normal;">Dominique Lasanski  was also concerned about the unintended consequences of further regulation of the internet. She wanted to see more competition  among digital businesses and  let the market bring changes that digital regulation can not possibly keep up with.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">James Heath gave a different slant again by describing what a major content provider like the BBC needs from the internet. He spoke passionately about the value of the Internet to the public, in many ways matching what the first two speakers said about the huge social and economic benefits of the Internet.  He  felt the essence of this debate was with two issues: high quality services and better transparency. He wanted  to see more premium services but not at the expense of good access generally. In other words faster services should not over-ride fair services. The BBC has worked closely with ISPs to improve connectivity and manage their services on the back of creating demand for digital content. <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clNbcNFPmAk" class="aga aga_18">Hear more from James here</a></span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clNbcNFPmAk" class="aga aga_19">.</a></span></p>
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		<title>ACS Law, Ralli Solicitors and Being Threatened</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 11:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[DEAPPG/Consumer Focus Event: ACS Law and the deact This panel event finally took place in the Thatcher Room in Portcullis House, on Tuesday 22nd March (4.00-6.30pm) having been moved from the smaller Wilson Room at the last minute; mainly because of increased demand for places. We had originally thought a small round table event would suit. The [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">DEAPPG/Consumer Focus Event: </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="font-size: medium;">ACS Law and the deact</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial;">This panel event finally took place in the Thatcher Room in Portcullis House, on Tuesday 22nd March (4.00-6.30pm) having been moved from the smaller Wilson Room at the last minute; mainly because of increased demand for places. We had originally thought a small round table event would suit. </span><span style="font-family: Arial;">The panel was made up of Saskia Walzel (Consumer Focus), Michael Forrester (Ralli Solicitors), Francis Davey (Barrister), </span><span style="font-family: Arial;">Mathew X (Being Threatened). The Chair was Eric Joyce MP (deappg). There was lively discussion with the audience after presentations from the panel. We heard from Lord Clement-Jones, Emily Cleevely (Publisher&#8217;s Association) James Firth (DaltonFirth) and Richard Clayton (Highwayman Associates). The event was covered by <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/366250/campaigners-government-must-learn-from-acs-law-case" class="aga aga_27">PC Pro in their blog</a> <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/366340/mp-it-will-take-two-years-to-fix-digital-economy-act  " class="aga aga_28">Eric Joyce MP was also interviewed</a> by Nicole Kobie for his comments on the deact.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial;">Mathew X from <a href="http://beingthreatened.yolasite.com/" class="aga aga_29">Being Threatened</a> spoke first you can see <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPw6sNYSjU" class="aga aga_30">some video of that</a> here and get his handout on <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/51304738/The-Speculative-Invoicing-Handbook-first-edition-2" class="aga aga_31">Speculative Invoicing here</a>. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Arial;"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-366" title="Mathew's handout" src="http://www.deappg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Screen-shot-2011-03-30-at-17.53.29-300x284.png" alt="" width="122" height="116" /></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', 'Bitstream Charter', Times, serif;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Michael Forrester from Ralli Solicitors spoke second sharing quotes and anecdotes from the court case: you can download </span><a href="http://www.ralli.co.uk/pdf/lessons_from_the_courtroom.pdf" class="aga aga_32"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">his presentation here:</span></a></span></span></p>
<p>His Honour Judge Birss QC stated at paragraph 21 of <em>Media CAT Ltd v Adams &amp; Ors [2011] EWPCC 6</em>:</p>
<p><em>“it is easy for seasoned lawyers to under-estimate the effect a letter of this kind could have on ordinary members of the public. This court&#8217;s office has had telephone calls from people in tears having received correspondence from ACS:Law on behalf of Media CAT. Clearly a recipient of a letter like this needs to take urgent and specialist legal advice. Obviously many people do not and find it very difficult to do so. Some people will be tempted to pay, regardless of whether they think they have actually done anything, simply because of the desire to avoid embarrassment and publicity given that the allegation is about pornography. Others may take the view that it all looks and sounds very official and rather than conduct a legal fight they cannot afford, they will pay £495. After all the letter refers to an order of the High Court which identified them in the first place. Lay members of the public will not know the intricacies of the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Norwich Pharmacal</span></strong> jurisdiction. They will not appreciate that the court order is not based on a finding of infringement at all.</em><em>”</em></p>
<p>While Michael and Mathew moved  the crowd by sharing their experience of the ACS Law case, Francis Davey, Barrister, went further to describe some of the problems that might reasonably be expected with the deact in the near  future. He  can be seen and heard in our <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Cw2XIs_EI" class="aga aga_33">you tube video clip here.</a></p>
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		<title>Copyleft, Free and the deact #deappg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Stallman came to Portcullis House on the 8th March, from the other Cambridge, as part of his UK tour to talk about Internet freedoms and his ethical approach to the use of software and computing technology.  He met with Julian Huppert MP, Eric Joyce MP, Alan Berry (Institute of Engineering and Technology) Pete Bradshaw [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://stallman.org/" class="aga aga_39">Richard Stallman</a> came to Portcullis House on the 8th March, from the other Cambridge, as part of his UK tour to talk about Internet freedoms and his ethical approach to the use of software and computing technology.  He met with Julian Huppert MP, Eric Joyce MP, Alan Berry (Institute of Engineering and Technology) Pete Bradshaw (Open Rights Group) and  Grahame Danby (HoC Library ).</p>
<p>Richard was interviewed by ORG after a long chat with Julian Huppert and before making a solid presentation about his views on the use of proprietary software and the role of the state in managing technology for maximum public benefit.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvf25rtUynw" class="aga aga_40"> </a><em><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvf25rtUynw" class="aga aga_41">You can see the main part of his talk in you tube here.</a></em><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvf25rtUynw" class="aga aga_42"> </a>It was a refreshing and  entertaining talk  from a person who inserts &#8216;unusual sense of humour&#8217; on his business card. This proved to be true, Eric Joyce asked about the manipulation and devaluation of the Internet, referring to the mass following of Justin Bieber, adding: <em>Have you heard of Justin Bieber? </em>Richard replied: <em>No,</em> adding: <em>if we dont mention him he does&#8217;nt exist.</em></p>
<p>Stallman<em> </em>or RMS, as he is known, is very serious about free software. He is the founder of the <a href="http://www.fsf.org/" class="aga aga_43">free software foundation</a>. Interestingly he says, his views are not really entertained by American legislators but he was able to translate his ideas into a useful British political context of  state versus privatisation. His views on fairness and state intervention in the use of technology for public service seemed reasonable to us. The private public division is more blurred here than across the water and it seems we are probably in a better position to start a conversation here about free software issues: the state, personal privacy and public security. RMS asks that the state invests first in a free operating system in order to open the door to using more free software, mainly because public entities are losing control of their technology. He suggests this is a  serious problem more serious in some areas, such as defence, health and policing.</p>
<p>As with most interesting people, RMS is also a person of (apparent) contradictions. A private person who does not want to share personal information (with corporate software involuntarly?) online and&#8230;. who will not buy anything on the internet. He said he would like to write an alternative software program to paypal, so that he could make purchases online anonomously. If that did&#8217;nt happen he would like to see a version of a North Korean shop over here: where the customer goes to the counter and the shop makes online purchases for you from various sites. He is also a person who believes most strongly  in building communities by improving connectivity and online cooperation. He does do email: rms@gnu.org</p>
<p>RMS&#8217;s real strength is that he offers a counterpoint with his copyleft vs copyright view. He argues strongly against the creative industries polemic and the deact (as it stands) arguing for the large public value of creativity and the importance of the  role of the state in overseeing technology companies. In short he believes governments should legalise sharing: &#8220;sharing is too important&#8230; companies who attack this undermine society because bit by bit people become a market, not people in their own right.&#8221; His criticism included examples from Amazon, Microsoft and the BPI,  who he believes restrict creativity and our freedom to share. He also talke at length about the importance of education to improve creativity and digital literacy. In order for us to go forward we should  alter the way we offer education about and with technology in schools&#8230; so that young people understand what is good software code: without handcuffs, back doors and catches. Young people must experience  the principles of good collaboration through collective improvement and shared knowledge. If we had a few more Richard Stallmans we might not have the ugly spectacle that we see in the copyright court this week with ACS Law who have been involved in speculative invoicing against the public for alleged copyright infringements.</p>
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		<title>IP, Fair Use and Copyright #deappg event</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Government’s IP Review and Fair Use Rights. Rip, Mix, Burn &#8211; How can fair use rights make UK copyright fit for the digital age? This was a very successful event held in the House of Commons on 8th March and sponsored by Consumer Focus.  The panel was Mike Weatherly MP, Jeff Lynn (coadec), Simon [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-size: medium;">Rip, Mix, Burn &#8211; How can fair use rights make UK copyright fit for the digital age?</span></p>
<p>This was a very successful event held in the House of Commons on 8th March and sponsored by Consumer Focus.  The panel was Mike Weatherly MP, Jeff Lynn <a href="http://www.coadec.com/" class="aga aga_53">(coadec)</a>, Simon Indelicate <a href="http://www.indelicates.com/" class="aga aga_54">(The Indelicates) </a>and Saskia Walzel (Consumer Focus).  <a href="http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/ralph-palmer/26610" class="aga aga_55">Chaired by Lord Lucas.</a> You can hear some of what was said by <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHaFuaxbC4E" class="aga aga_56">Simon, Jeff and Mike in this video link</a>, or <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdRbYch3tcs" class="aga aga_57">Lord Lucas in this video link.</a></p>
<p>Consumer Focus have published  further information in their website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/publications/the-economic-impact-of-consumer-copyright-exceptions-a-literature-review" class="aga aga_58">The economic impact of consumer copyright exceptions: A literature review</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.consumerfocus.org.uk/files/2010/10/Consumer-Focus-Time-to-change-the-tune.pdf" class="aga aga_59">Time to change the tune – Consumer research briefing on copyright</a></p>
<p>In November last year David  Cameron announced a review of the UK’s copyright framework, to make it more innovation friendly. It is generally accepted that existing Copyright Law in the UK is restrictive to new media start ups and the digital economy. The government&#8217;s <a href="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ipreview.htm" class="aga aga_60">Independent Review of IP and Growth</a>, is being led by Prof Ian Hargreaves: it will examine what the benefits of ‘fair use’ exceptions to copyright might be to the digital economy. What has been termed ‘fair use rights’ are essentially exceptions which allow consumers to copy, adapt or distribute copyrighted works without the permission of the copyright owner. While the UK has a number of fair use rights, called fair dealing, normally for the benefit of research and news reporting, the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act only provides consumers with the fair use right to right to backup software and time-shift broadcast material, ie record broadcasts to watch/listen at a later time. Essentially the copying of copyrighted content for personal use by consumers is largely illegal under UK law: the back-up of music, film and e-books is currently illegal and so is format-shifting, eg copying music into different formats to listen to on different devices.</p>
<p>Fair use of copyrighted content, consumers have purchased, is legal in most other countries. For example, format-shifting is legal in the US, and Apple has developed the iPod and iTunes on the basis that consumers format-shift their CD collection into digital. UK consumers can purchase hardware and software that has been designed overseas, to do something that is illegal in this country. But no UK consumer has ever been sued for the fair use of products they have purchased. So, is it time to update UK copyright law? Our panel made many very useful points; here is a flavour of what they said.</p>
<p>Simon Indelicate spoke first and described how he felt about copyright and creativity as a recording artist. He started by saying that format-shifting is a pressing issue and that ultimately it makes no sense for a law to excist that is so widely disobeyed and about which people are ignorant. His comments on re-purposing were particularly well received by the audience: &#8220;copyright law is out of step when you parody or quote using the ideas and language of other artists in order to create a new common culture&#8221;. The example he gave was the court case against a musician who had re-purposed words and music from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DVCgKsqn30" class="aga aga_61">the Rolling Stone&#8217;s song &#8220;Ruby Tuesday&#8221;</a>. He felt that the law should focus on obvious (commercial) infringement not on everyday use, repurposing or parody.</p>
<p>Jeff Lynn  spoke on behalf of tech start ups and larger businesses in Shoreditch.  In his experience there were two types of ‘copyright infringement’: ‘torrenting’, more commonly known as ‘piracy’, was the more significant one, and that he fully understand why content owners are concerned about that. However the other type of infringement is &#8216;daily use&#8217; and that is very different. He believed that fair use is a step in the right direction.</p>
<p>Mike Weatherly MP talked about how important the creative industries are to the UK economy: 8% GDP employing over 2 milion people. He mentioned that the collecting societies he had met did not believe that fair use was the way forward, but that educating consumers was the better course of action. He  was sympathetic to the idea that is fair use, particularly in relation to content consumers have purchased, though it needs to be narrowly defined to avoid litigation. Weatherly mentioning how even the BPI had changed their view on format-shifting recently. However he wanted to emphasise that fair use is not free use. The business model should change but artists need to keep ultimate control.</p>
<p>Saskia Walzel asked: what do you say to the consumer?&#8230; “that it is illegal to format-shift your CD to your iPod, and to back-up your e-book, but please don’t upload anything on the Pirate Bay because that is illegal as well”. She said that the law is nonsensical, and that it needs to be brought in line with consumer expectations. She also pointed out that there is often a big difference between creators and copyright owners, and that creators do not necessarily benefit, because they have assigned their copyright. She said that in the past collecting societies have frequently failed their creator members, but that the mass use of copyrighted content in the digital economy is not possible without functioning collecting societies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We were very pleased to have Alma Whitten, Google&#8217;s Privacy Director, in the House of Commons last week and it was great to have Robert Halfon MP chair this event. Rob has done so much to raise awareness in the House about Internet privacy issues. You will probably be aware of the Backbench Business Debate [...]]]></description>
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<p>We were very pleased to have <strong>Alma Whitten</strong>, Google&#8217;s Privacy Director, in the House of Commons last week and it was great to have <strong>Robert Halfon MP</strong> chair this event. Rob has done so much to raise awareness in the House about Internet privacy issues. You will probably be aware of the Backbench Business Debate he organised: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Internet and Privacy</span> October 2010. MPs discussed our civil liberties and personal privacy on the Internet. Rob started that debate by telling us he was a Google products user and that he strongly believed in the power of the Internet to do good.</p>
<p>Alma started her presentation here by stating that privacy is a fundamental for Google. She went on to say that it is also a huge challenge, not least when you consider that Google&#8217;s aim is such a big project: to make the world&#8217;s information more accessible to all. She described three categories of information or data that Google holds: Log data (Search details), Account data (User name, password etc) and non-transactional data (Google earth, google maps etc). Rob asked if the same data is logged during a Google search from a mobile phone: answer, yes.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/Xu5kRxIMECc?a" class="aga aga_64">The video clip here shows Alma</a>, describing Log data and the Google cookie in the Thatcher room of Portcullis House. As an aside, this may become more interesting because a new <a href="http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/security/3264194/information-commissioner-firms-must-wake-up-to-cookie-law/" class="aga aga_65">European Law restricting how cookies</a> are used by Internet companies has just come into force and there is much discussion about how it will affect the digital economy more generally. In the screenshot below we can see what Google captures during a typical search by you the user. The log line shows your: IP address, date, time, URL, search query, browser type, Cookie ID (Google preference cookie ID number). What Google knows about you, is this and your Account data/personal profile. You may be pleased to know they don&#8217;t keep log data forever  but it is retained for  9-18 months before being trashed.</p>
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<p>Alma went on to explain how this simple set of retained search data can be very powerful in helping google to  improve the quality of it&#8217;s search and to  combat any &#8216;manipulations&#8217; of the search engine. By &#8216;crowd-sourcing intelligence&#8217; google can both help users and hinder the bad guys.  The famous google algorithm is designed to improve searches through better  page ranking: the science of making search results work better.</p>
<p><em>It was also interesting to hear Alma talk about what is coming next from  the engineers at Google: such as a new tool bar which will allow me to log into multiple Google email accounts at the same time.</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you! Thank you to everyone who contributed to our efforts over the last few months. From following our activities, commenting on our bulletins, attending our events and sharing information with us on twitter @digecon, your support and feedback has been invaluable. We want to keep DEAPPG members updated with all the latest news and [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;">Thank you to everyone who contributed to our efforts over the last few months. From following our activities, commenting on our bulletins, attending our events and sharing information with us on twitter </span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;">@digecon, your support and feedback has been invaluable.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;">We want to keep DEAPPG members updated with all the latest news and events. From the latest news on Digital Economy in the UK, bulletins on our activities, and notices to MPs and Lords, we will be working to engage with the public on multiple platforms. We have a variety of information, from &#8216;<a href="http://www.deappg.co.uk/bulletins" >Bulletins</a>&#8216; on meetings, events and recent news as well our latest <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/digecon" class="aga aga_67">Tweets</a>. </span></span></span><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;">Our <a href="http://www.deappg.co.uk/" >blog</a> has the latest news and information on meetings and events we&#8217;re holding. We also regularly expand on recent news with political commentary and analysis. </span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;"> If you can&#8217;t make it to one of our events, follow us through our website or through twitter. March will be a busy month with lots happening in the House of Commons, take a look at our <a href="http://www.deappg.co.uk/events" >events page</a> for more information. </span></span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-size: small;">Look forward to seeing you soon.</span></span></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Digital Economy Act  and The Creative Coalition Campaign Creative Coalition Campaign (CCC) held a panel event with the deappg in the House of Commons to talk about how important the Digital Economy Act is for the future of creative industries in the UK. It was chaired by the Digital Economy APPG  treasurer Chris Heaton-Harris MP [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Digital Economy Act  and The <a href="http://www.creativecoalitioncampaign.org.uk/" class="aga aga_75">Creative Coalition Campaign</a></strong></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-182" title="CCC members" src="http://www.deappg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Screen-shot-2011-01-25-at-14.24.38-300x281.png" alt="" width="300" height="281" /><a href="http://www.deappg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Creative_Coalition_Campaign_logo.gif" ><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-181" title="Creative_Coalition_Campaign_logo" src="http://www.deappg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Creative_Coalition_Campaign_logo.gif" alt="" width="143" height="173" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: small;">Creative Coalition Campaign (CCC) held a panel event with the deappg in the House of Commons to talk about how important the Digital Economy Act is for the future of creative industries in the UK. It was chaired</span><strong><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></strong><span style="font-size: small;">by the Digital Economy APPG  treasurer Chris Heaton-Harris MP (on Tuesday 1st February,  4.30-6pm). </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Creative Coalition Campaign is a group of  rights holders and some trade unions.  In the words of the CCC this event was held to &#8220;dispel common myths surrounding the DE Act&#8221;. The CCC came together a few years ago with help from <a href="http://www.lexcomm.co.uk/" class="aga aga_76">Lexington Communications</a> a leading public affairs and communications agency who arranged this event. It&#8217;s most active member is the British Recorded Music Industry (BPI). This group, of mainly rights holders, argues that there is a need for more technical measures, some disconnections and large scale internet blocking to make the internet a better place for us all. The public know that the internet requires more management than there is at present but do they know how the deact will be used to improve things? More regulation or internet policing is unfortunately likely to come at a cost to the consumer. But will the cost of an internet connection rise dramatically if new measures such as monitoring of subscriber activity, infringement reports, technical measures, disconnections and web site blocking are introduced?  The big Internet service Providers (ISPs) think it is inevitable as the deact will be expensive for them and rights holders, and that these costs will be passed on to the consumer. The CCC believe that the deact in its fullest form is necessary because the internet is still like the &#8216;wild west&#8217;. They aim to reduce online copyright infringement and secure  jobs in the creative industries, in the UK using the deact. They argued their case.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SszwYpQchO4" class="aga aga_77"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-218" title="CCC panel" src="http://www.deappg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Screen-shot-2011-02-05-at-09.23.26-300x169.png" alt="" width="300" height="169" /></a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">There were three representatives on the panel, one from the Musicians Union, one from the British Video Association (BVA) and one from the Citizen&#8217;s Advice Bureau. The first  panel speaker, John Smith (General Secretary), </span><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><span style="font-size: small;"> argued that there was a great deal of commonsense in the deact, no one disagreed. He quoted from the BPI&#8217;s (British Recorded Music Industry) glossy, &#8216;Digital Music Nation&#8217;: &#8220;in the UK in 2008 there were £1.4 billion losses to our industry caused by piracy and 39,000 jobs lost&#8221;.  On page 28:  &#8221;In September 2010 4.4m individuals used at least one of the  P2P sites or applications tracked&#8230; &#8221; The second speaker, Livinia, talked about how essential the deact was for  the BVA and the new business models rights holders want to invest in. </span><span style="font-size: small;">The last presentation was from the Citizens Advice Bureau, Susan, who gave a fascinating insight into the stories of ordinary people who had been threatened with court action by ACS Law for online copyright infringement. CAB argued that we need the deact but with a more proportionate response for ordinary infringers; one that did not lead directly to unfair fines, technical measures or disconnection (but could include some internet blocking). <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SszwYpQchO4" class="aga aga_78">(See video)</a></span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: small;">The deappg asked the panel how internet blocking and censorship of web sites might be best managed (by the government) and paid for, if introduced by the deact. This is unclear, not least as the size of the problem would be a large one, by the BPI&#8217;s own accounts. A lawyer in the audience suggested that the government should follow the </span><a href="http://www.techdirt.com/blog.php?tag=coica&amp;edition=techdirt" class="aga aga_79"><span style="font-size: small;">American model</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> (COICA) and there was brief mention of the Ofcom review of the deact at various points during the evening . </span><span style="font-size: small;">It is worth taking a look at the review of web blocking measures, that the government have asked Ofcom to undertake, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12334075" class="aga aga_80">the BBCs blog post</a> on this is very useful</span><span style="font-size: small;">:</span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: small;">Is it possible for access to the site to be blocked by internet service providers?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How robust would such a block be?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Can specific parts of the site be blocked?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What would it cost ISPs to implement such blocks?</span></li>
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<p><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><span style="font-size: small;">It would have been useful to hear a little more from the content providers in the room about their latest business ideas to win over the music nation to british digital services. A really useful article on this subject was written by </span><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/31/music-industry-digital-midem" class="aga aga_81"><span style="font-size: small;">Alexandra Topping for the Media Guardian</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> last week: &#8221; Music&#8217;s Leap of faith&#8221;.  Topping describes the state of play in the music business and quotes the head of Vivendi (Universal Music Group): with 30% of it&#8217;s revenues coming from new business models &#8220;the music business is still only part of the way towards reinventing itself&#8221;. She says that  a large part of the problem is the failure of rights holders to provide licenses for content based services or to recognise the importance of improving the online experience for users over protecting income from copyright.  This is the main reason new businesses such as Spotify or other new digital busineses can&#8217;t make a profit. Is the </span></span><span style="font-size: small;">deact a stick without a carrot or are the CCC (and the BPI) right to push for stronger legislation to defend traditional copyright online with strong measures in the deact?</span></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watch this video Read the proposal for extending  internet blocking in Europe, here. On the face of it web blocking looks like a very sensible thing. Take a look at the work of the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), a body set up to deal with illegal websites, mainly for child pornography. They put together a [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFpoXIdRQc&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;a" class="aga aga_92">Watch this video </a></p>
<p><a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:52010PC0094:EN:HTML" class="aga aga_93">Read the proposal for extending  internet blocking in Europe, here.</a></p>
<p>On the face of it web blocking looks like a very sensible thing. Take a look at the work of the <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/47654148/Website-blocking-LINX" class="aga aga_94">Internet Watch Foundation </a>(IWF), a body set up to deal with illegal websites, mainly for child pornography. They put together a list of  offenders, a few 100 only, and they update that list twice daily online. They  share this list and work closely with ISPs who have volunteered to help block the sites on the list. However, those ISPs are aware of quite a few difficulties in extending this model of blocking. The problems of managing a block list grow exponentially when you try to include  other types of (illegal) content,  or add more websites or include other inernet based activity in the blocklist. Some believe the list would become unmanageable quite quickly and voluntary cooperation could quite easily diminish as the list increased from 100s to 1000s or even millions of censored  addresses. Which brings us quite quickly to the matter  of costs, both legal and technical. Who would pay for a new, bigger blocking service: Ofcom,  ISPs or possibly the IWF (who currently spend about a million pounds a year doing the job)? This would ultimately be a public service of sorts  but not a free one. It would most likely show in increased household internet charges, somewhere? While the IWF have done good work in bringing our attention to a real and relatively easily defined problem, they have experienced some problems along the way: for example when they  censored some pages from wikipaedia last year. User generated content, censorship and copyright are a bigger legal minefield in social media sites where there is some essential legal dispensations and where the  site owner, not the original publisher or uploader of the content has the final say about takedown. Legal costs are likely to become much more important once  block lists start to censor other less well defined types of &#8216;illegal&#8217; content.</p>
<p>The problem is in the main a technical one. How to block effectively as new technology becomes easier to employ in avoiding blocking measures. Take a look at t<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/47654148/Website-blocking-LINX" class="aga aga_95">hese slides from LINX </a>to get a better understanding of what blocking and take down mean. We hav&#8217;nt actually shut down that many child porn sites. So far, its been a bit like moving drug dealers out of one neighbourhood, only to find that they find another for their trade. In general terms most child pornsters  and paedophiles just  &#8217;move&#8217; location, use encryption or other technical means to avoid detection and blocking. The idea that ISPs can be effective censors and gate keepers is not well thought through, as yet. Will every Internet Service Provider  employ an expert in technical censorship; in effect a digital Mary Whitehouse or&#8230;.. will the goverment support an NGO to do this work? Perhaps rights holders have more developed ideas on how to work with ISPs to ensure more effective web blocking?  As we have seen with google, making some sites less visible in searches is useful, but what else is useful? We should also ask how can our existing laws for illegal online activity support more responsible computer use. And how can we improve public awareness of the need for better digital literacy to support all this? Talk Talk and BT seem to understand this idea, as they seek to support subscribers in managing their  technology and internet connection, not just for better broadband speeds but for legal content aswell. It is too easy for any of us to fall behind and not keep up with the latest emerging technology. And it&#8217;s more likely if you hand over too much responsibility for your  internet security to an outsider or a bit of software.  Householders and parents need to keep up with whats happening and they need to understand what internet  blocking means. The solutions can never be purely technical as increasingly larger volumes of data and  higher speed connections  push us towards more expensive automation for the management and censorship of content.</p>
<p>This is an important issue for both rights holders, consumers and ISPs. We will see more discussion on this  as the deact,  section 17 and 18 (formerly clause 17) is revisited and further developed by Ed Vaizey MP in Westminster. Content providers would like  the government to be a bit tougher on online copyright infringers and ISPs are likely to be asked to enforce technical measures or  disconnection on  file sharers. Web blocking is another measure, in this mix, and as far as I know, rights holders will probably want to use a list to assist in preventing online copyright infringement with commercial blocking. It would be interesting to hear more about  how they might see this system operating in the near future? The conversation is just starting, add your voice.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amaliaking.co.uk/notes/11-january-2011-open-letter-MEP-internet-freedom-rights-web-blocking-EU-directive-2011" class="aga aga_96">Amalia King</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/amaliakinguk" class="aga aga_97">@ameliakinhguk</a>:</p>
<p>To: Marta Andreasen; Richard Ashworth; Catherine Bearder; Sharon Bowles; Nirj Deva; James Elles; Nigel Farage; Daniel Hannan; Peter Skinner; Keith Taylor</p>
<p>Subject: Open Email&#8230; Constituent Concern: Internet freedom threatened by EU directive Date: 11 January 2011</p>
<p>Dear MEP</p>
<p>I am writing to you as an MEP for the South East Region and therefore in your capacity as one of my direct representatives in the EU Parliament. I felt compelled to write to you about current proposals, put forward by the European Commissioner for Home Affairs, for a Directive to combat child exploitation. Full text at: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:52010PC0094:EN:HTML.	I	am particularly concerned about Article 21 “Blocking access to websites containing child pornography”. I understand that these measures will be the subject of a vote at the beginning of February and so will give you an opportunity to be heard on this issue.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amaliaking.co.uk/articles/open-letter-MEP-internet-freedom-rights-web-blocking-EU-directive-2011.pdf" class="aga aga_98">See Amalia&#8217;s full letter here</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amaliaking.co.uk/articles/EU-parliament-prepares-vote-internet-censorship-web-blocking-directive-2011.pdf" class="aga aga_99">See Amalia&#8217;s notes on the issue here</a></p>
<p><em>Look out for  a #deappg event on web blocking in our bulletins</em></p>
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<p>The coalition for the digital economy (coadec) held and event in the Tech Hub in Shoreditch on 12/01/11 . See the coadec blog for photos and more on <a href="http://www.coadec.com/?p=423" class="aga aga_109">The Digital Economy and the Government, challenges and opportunities for 2011</a>.  Also see <a href="http://www.zedscore.com/2011/01/coadec-panel-government-and-digital.html" class="aga aga_110">zedscore&#8217;s blog post </a>(<a href="http://twitter.com/zeshanghory" class="aga aga_111" target="_blank">@ZeshanGhory</a>) for who said what. An able and entertaining panel was chaired by Mike Butcher (Techcrunch, <a href="https://twitter.com/mikebutcher" class="aga aga_112">@mikebutcher</a>):</p>
<p>Tim Bradshaw (Digital Media Correspondent, Financial Times)<br />
 Rt. Hon. David Davis MP (Conservative, deappg member)<br />
 Julian Huppert MP (Liberal Democrat, vice chair deappg )<br />
 Sean Seton-Rogers (General Partner, <a href="http://www.profounderscapital.com/" class="aga aga_113">PROfounders Capital</a>)<br />
 Milo Yiannopolous (Technology Columnist, The Telegraph)</p>
<p>Wendy Tan White (CEO <a href="http://www.moonfruit.com/" class="aga aga_114">Moonfruit</a>) Mike</p>
<p>If you have a few minutes take a look at the opening questions, about the DEACT, from Mike Butcher, and replies from David Davis MP and  Julian Huppert MP in our <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DigEcon?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/mAA_p1CGW-I" class="aga aga_115">youtube video channel</a>. Many thanks to Jeff Lynne (coadec) for organising this excellent event.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[45 members from the Fastiis Legal Advisory Group (FLAG) attended a meeting with the deappg in the Atlee Suite  in Portcullis House on Wednesday morning 13th Jan. Thanks to Julian Heathcote-Hobbins from FLAG for his work in arranging this event. Our Chair Eric Joyce MP welcomed the group  talked about the deappg and took some questions [...]]]></description>
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<p>45 members from the <a href="http://www.fastiis.org/" class="aga aga_131">Fastiis</a> Legal Advisory Group (FLAG) attended a meeting with the deappg in the Atlee Suite  in Portcullis House on Wednesday morning 13th Jan. Thanks to Julian Heathcote-Hobbins from FLAG for his work in arranging this event. Our Chair Eric Joyce MP welcomed the group  talked about the deappg and took some questions from FLAG members.  He described  how we have been engaging with the public, businesses and politicians to raise awareness of issues relating to our digital economy, not least the likely impact of the digital economy act on the public (follow us at <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/digecon" class="aga aga_132">@digecon</a>).</p>
<p>We heard four FLAG presentations: Andrew Heaney (Talk Talk) <a href="http://www.ppm-associates.com/" class="aga aga_133">Paul Gunn (Pronett)</a> <a href="http://www.dmhstallard.com/" class="aga aga_134">Frank Jennings (DMH Stallard)</a> and <a href="http://www.hogarthchambers.com/home" class="aga aga_135">Simon Malynicz, (Barrister)</a>. <a href="http://www.p2pon.com/2011/01/12/isps-vs-the-digital-economy-act-talktalk-doesn’t-back-down/" class="aga aga_136">Andrew Heaney described</a> how the deact was in many ways going to be unfair to subscribers and providers. Furthermore it is most likely to be ineffective in controlling p2p file sharing, Frank Jennings picked up on this later on referring to the increasing use of &#8216;cyberlockers&#8217;. Andrew also drew attention to some of the likely and high costs of the deact, for example  a possible additional five million pounds for Ofcom to oversee the deact. If you have been keeping an eye on the wider politics, it looks like the government may now be having second thoughts about the effectiveness of the deact. As they compress Ofcom, reconfigure  parts of BIS  and  focus on technology solutions to make cost savings with public money, it would be a shame if the deact developed expensive unintended consequences and the coalition are, I&#8217;m sure, aware of this. Commonsense, conversation and cooperation is the  way ahead if the deact is to emerge as a better product able to serve the public and  the creative industries, including investors in software. FLAG  recognise  the need to listen to people with different views is one of the reasons Andrew Heaney, who has successfully stopped the deact in its tracks (for  a while), was talking at this event.  Mr Heaney was as brave as FLAG was wise, as he got questioned by  some very knowledgeable lawyers about  Talk Talk&#8217;s Judicial Review. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DigEcon?feature=mhum" class="aga aga_137">See more in our Youtube channel here.</a></p>
<p>Paul Gunn from Pronett <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/46911852/FAST-Final-Version" class="aga aga_138">(slides here)</a> told us about his concerns about corporate copyright theft because the law could not keep up with the rate of change in technology. He asked what can the deact do for  software companies and small businesses like his? His view was that the deact was all about  recreational uses of the internet, large companies and mass p2p; it was not so useful for small companies. <a href="http://www.tomilaw.com/" class="aga aga_139">Frank Jennings</a>(<a href="http://twitter.com/#!/frjennings" class="aga aga_140">@frjennings</a>) talked about the Limewire case: corporate and personal liability <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/46912066/DMH-Stallard-Limewire" class="aga aga_141">(slides hear)</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/DigEcon?feature=mhum" class="aga aga_142">(video here)</a>. Simon Malynicz described more corporate copyright theft: the interesting case of how software manuals were used to steal software copyright without taking the actual code <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/46912114/Simon-Malynicz-SAS-Case-v2" class="aga aga_143">(slides here)</a>.</p>
<p>We are looking forward to working with FAST again in the near future. <em>Keep an eye on our events page and bulletins for next events.</em></p>
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